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  Sleeping during meetings

  by darth frosty in

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  i was just remembering some of the great sleep i used to get at the meetings.

  towards the end i would sleep while reading for the bookstudy and the watchtower lesson.

  who can top that?

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  It reminds me of one time where I was falling asleep while being the reader at the book study. I tried so hard not to slip away into bliss, as everyone was facing me and the conductor. I was soooo sleepy but fighting it off the best I could.

  Imagine my face! Cross-eyed with one side of my mouth hanging down while my head is swaying to and fro. The book study group got a good laugh from the funny faces I was making. I triumphed though, and didn't fall asleep. But it was a darn hard battle.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Can you name ONE thing that the WTBTS said that came true?

  by megsmomma in

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  garybuss said not one single thing they told him about in his younger years (since the 50's) came true.

  it made me think....does anyone know of anything they said that was/is right?????

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  For whatever this is worth:

  One brother told me that the Pittsburgh Steelers was going to win the Super Bowl last year.

  He was right!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  More JW Folklore, Enjoy

  by moomanchu in

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  sent to me by my jw relatives.. is this for real ??????????

  from a brother in kansas.. this was an experience from japan, as told by a circuit overseer: .

  jehovah's witnesses were doing street work and placed some magazines with a man.

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  Just out of curiousity, I did a Google search to see if I could find a non-JW source for this story. This is the only thing that came up, from a webpage claiming to be from 'The Canadian Institute of English'.

  Just for your information, 'The Canadian Institute of English' is run by JW's.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  My Bethel experience

  by new boy in

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  because of the length of this, it will be done in two parts.

  part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months ( they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

  because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 60!

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  By the way Dogpatch, your site "Freeminds" was the first anti-JW web-site I'd seen. I went through it with a fine tooth comb.

  Nice!

  And thanks!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  My Bethel experience

  by new boy in

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  because of the length of this, it will be done in two parts.

  part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months ( they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

  because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 60!

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  Dogpatch,

  Damage control as many leave...

  From your cartoon that you posted "God's people leave Bethel", I noticed the name Jim Bauer. I remember him. Tall, lanky single brother. He once was a visiting speaker at my former congregation when he came over to stay with an ex-bethelite who was an elder in my congregation. They were long time friends. Considering that Jim Bauer was a long time Bethelite and a "heavy" there, all the members in my former congregation hailed him like a god from Mount Olympus Bethel.

  Had dinner with him once when he visited. Seemed like a nice person. Rather mild and quiet. I forgot what his duty was at Bethel. Did you know him personally?

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  How much infidelity was there in your congregation?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my congregation had 85 members in the 90's.today, there are only 35 members.i counted 6 divorces that were due to infidelity.all were married in their teens and each married the first person they ever dated.all the men found new girlfriends or remarried and left all the kids and financial burdens on their wives.most of the ex-wives live with their parents and have a hard time remarrying due to lack of men in the kingdom hall.. now,the new thing is for these divorced women finding brothers who were divorced due to infidelity in their marriage and date brothers from out of state.don't you think that by finding a partner who was in the same situation makes it more difficult?

  and what guarantee is there that this will work since their first husbands were witnesses?.

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  There were two couples involved in my former congregation.

  The wives stayed in the organization while their ex-husbands were DF'D and moved away with their mistresses.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  What's the BIG deal with Bethel?

  by onlycurious in

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  i was at my jw's friends house a few days ago and she had a jar on her counter that had "trip to bethel" written on it.. there was some chump change inside.

  i never asked.

  is bethel kind of like mecca?.

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  Q: What's the BIG deal with Bethel?

  A: Egos

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Who is going to finally expose the WTS for what it really is?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the walls of the wts are finally being cracked but nobody is breaking down the walls.we have the internet exposing all their lies,elders resigning,no new members beside families being baptized, contributions dwindling,teens leaving in droves,and layoffs at the wts headquarters .still,the walls remain intact.the 800 lbs.

  gorilla is missing to break down the wall.. we know in 1975 many members left but the wts wall was easily repaired.who will finally break the walls down and how will it happen?

  what will it take for a mass exodus?.

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  JW reform.

  I already know of serveral congregations that are quite liberal. Perhaps that is the current movement.

  By the way, I'm contributing toward the "liberal" phase.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  The Public Talk yesterday was about nothing......................again!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  i try to attend some sunday meetings just to keep peace in my family .but,it is almost unbearable to listen to these public talks.yesterday,the talk was about adam and eve and how they ate the forbidden fruit.how they sinned and now we are all sinners.how they were thrown out of paradise .how the angels came down and had relations with females.that jesus died for our sins.

  only jehovah's witnesses who are faithful to the end will inherit paradise earth.the earth will be here to time indefinite.the survivors will never die after the 1000 year reign is over.. how many times have we heard this talk?

  how many more times can they pound these talks into everyone's brain?

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  Once in a blue moon we'll have a speaker at our congregation give an excellent public talk. Excellent meaning that he would be a good speaker, superb teacher and would expound upon the scriptures. Humble and modest as well. These types are far and few in between. Extremely rare. He would have the audience with him all the way through and would make the 45 minutes fly by and seem like only 15 minutes.

  However, I would hear grumbling after the meeting...from our elders. They would say that they speaker only brought attention to himself.

  Can I say "JEALOUSY"!!??

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)
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  Will Lack of Leadership Sink the JW Ship?

  by Seeker4 in

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  i see serious problems with the leadership of the witnesses on two important levels: locally, in smaller bodies of elders with marginally qualified men carrying heavier workloads, and internationally in a lackluster and unimaginative governing body.

  there are no nathan knorrs, or fred or ray franz's in this pathetic group!

  first, the local elders: .

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Former congregation before I moved out : 9 elders & 7 ministerial servants

  Now : 4 elders & 5 ministerial servants

  Current congregation when I moved in : 7 elders & 4 ministerial servants

  Now : 4 elders & 7 ministerial servants

  Evidence indicates a spiraling down.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously by WTS standards)